show. >> it made me angry, jerry. >> and the other was being on the cover of "rolling stone." that's honest lip the first time i noticed, oh, my quosh, people are noticing it. >> none of that went to his head. that's springer's second secret, admit the stupidity. >> it's a circus, period. it has no redeeming social value. >> the show is 25. springer, he's almost 73. but don't mention retirement. jerry's third secret, work to stay young. >> i just do it because it's fun to do. and i'm not that good at golf. i mean, i i think i'd go crazy. it's psychological, i'm sure. if i ever had nightmares about something, it's about not having a job. which is crazy, i know. >> 25 years. >> i'll see you at 50th. 25 years from now i don't think i'll be as talkative.